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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... The only thing I came away with was the abiding conviction that the other applicants at James Mathison's idol audition must have been really, really shit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; The only thing I came away with was the abiding conviction that the other applicants at James Mathison&#8217;s idol audition must have been really, really shit!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I think 'Rock is an Institution' would have been a great '80's hair metal song. Maybe Twisted Sister or even 'Hot for Teacher' era Van Halen... The video would have had the singer in a straightjacket in a padded cell, and the guitarist would have done his solo while getting strapped down to an ECT table. Needless to say there would have been lots of naughty nurses. Rock on. \m/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I think &#8216;Rock is an Institution&#8217; would have been a great &#8217;80&#8217;s hair metal song. Maybe Twisted Sister or even &#8216;Hot for Teacher&#8217; era Van Halen&#8230; The video would have had the singer in a straightjacket in a padded cell, and the guitarist would have done his solo while getting strapped down to an ECT table. Needless to say there would have been lots of naughty nurses. Rock on. \m/</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 04:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, you're right ben! sorry! i meant the commercial stations. yes, aesthetics is as simple as a line across capital!!@ 

and those buffoons with astroboy haircuts speak far too articulately to be anything except salesmen (and women, although there was a conspicuous absence I thought of capitalist women, mostly business-as-usual psychopathic men like kyle sandinmypants or whatever his name is). there was the gendered height thing the whole night, too. such poor planning, what was with that?

knoxville was funny as the clownery, tho, i'll give them that. he just didn't give a shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, you&#8217;re right ben! sorry! i meant the commercial stations. yes, aesthetics is as simple as a line across capital!!@ </p>
<p>and those buffoons with astroboy haircuts speak far too articulately to be anything except salesmen (and women, although there was a conspicuous absence I thought of capitalist women, mostly business-as-usual psychopathic men like kyle sandinmypants or whatever his name is). there was the gendered height thing the whole night, too. such poor planning, what was with that?</p>
<p>knoxville was funny as the clownery, tho, i&#8217;ll give them that. he just didn&#8217;t give a shit.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Ugly, ugly, ugly radio hosts" -- I will not stand by and let you describe Maya Jupiter in that way, thankyou Mr Fuller :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ugly, ugly, ugly radio hosts&#8221; &#8212; I will not stand by and let you describe Maya Jupiter in that way, thankyou Mr Fuller <img src='http://homecookedtheory.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2006/10/29/vale-80s-ideologue-rock/#comment-48076</link>
		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there was definitely a polarisation of the music on display at the ARIAs. political pop (what k-punk would call apologists for capitalist realism, which just happened to be overcoded by the despotic signifier god-head bono; maybe KP is right, pffft...) vs pop materialism. i don't mind the first kind. PG 4 PM was funny. PG did an event at GB the other week, fuck he is tall. the second type of music maker however should be shot (in the stomach, so it takes a long time for them to die). i am thinking of the evil stupidity of the 'tv rock' shit that sounds like a really bad rehash of early 1990s europop-dance. it is worse than fucking ring tone music because at least that serves a function that isn't simply about tapping into the addictive reactionary dark side of our souls. 

the industry side of things was quite funny, with the forced insertion (like a kind of reverse enema) of industry 'celebrities' such as the ugly, ugly, ugly radio hosts into proceedings, while the only people/groups of that part of the industry that were celebrated by the actual award winning artists were the independent records, ABC, and triple j. it is a great example of the functioning of the spectacle to forcefully produce certain visibilities within its closed architecture while these other elements sort spill over in a nervous, sweaty-palmed gushing of excitement under the force of attention. 

You could see the true artists, if I can be so naive, because they spoke to their own jaggard rhythms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was definitely a polarisation of the music on display at the ARIAs. political pop (what k-punk would call apologists for capitalist realism, which just happened to be overcoded by the despotic signifier god-head bono; maybe KP is right, pffft&#8230;) vs pop materialism. i don&#8217;t mind the first kind. PG 4 PM was funny. PG did an event at GB the other week, fuck he is tall. the second type of music maker however should be shot (in the stomach, so it takes a long time for them to die). i am thinking of the evil stupidity of the &#8216;tv rock&#8217; shit that sounds like a really bad rehash of early 1990s europop-dance. it is worse than fucking ring tone music because at least that serves a function that isn&#8217;t simply about tapping into the addictive reactionary dark side of our souls. </p>
<p>the industry side of things was quite funny, with the forced insertion (like a kind of reverse enema) of industry &#8216;celebrities&#8217; such as the ugly, ugly, ugly radio hosts into proceedings, while the only people/groups of that part of the industry that were celebrated by the actual award winning artists were the independent records, ABC, and triple j. it is a great example of the functioning of the spectacle to forcefully produce certain visibilities within its closed architecture while these other elements sort spill over in a nervous, sweaty-palmed gushing of excitement under the force of attention. </p>
<p>You could see the true artists, if I can be so naive, because they spoke to their own jaggard rhythms.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 02:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it a Missy Higgins free event? One can only hope.

I missed it as my flatmate refuses to watch anything except on abc and sbs. Though I managed to get him to make an exception for Rome and The Sopranos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it a Missy Higgins free event? One can only hope.</p>
<p>I missed it as my flatmate refuses to watch anything except on abc and sbs. Though I managed to get him to make an exception for Rome and The Sopranos.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Itâ€™s that the language and the tactics and the tools of expressing political affect have changed." 

Indeed, there's been too much complaining from people schooled in reading the ideologies of '80s pop culture, and not enough figuring out what the fuck is actually going on right now. Much more so with hip-hop than rock, I'd say. But at the same time, I'm still fascinated by a more expansive concept of &lt;a href="http://www.antipopper.com/blog/archives/2003_08_21_2216hrs.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;"virtualised" '80s Australian pop culture politics&lt;/a&gt; that somehow established chains of meaning that weren't necessarily "ideological", even if they involved Midnight Oil at certain points. There's also the signifying chains of '80s British pop, which integrated occasional leftist flag-waving into a more general culture of utopianism. I haven't read much British cultural studies, but I get the impression that its emphasis on the microscopic resistances of subculturality would tend to miss that weird relationship between programmatic politics, a public concept of the defining political horizon, and the politics of style. Or maybe I'm retrospectively reading too much into the '80s. I'm not trying to argue for a revival of "'80s ideological" pop, by any means, but to reread it in less literal terms.

Meanwhile: ah, the ARIAs. Last century I found myself in Silverchair's hotel room at an ARIAs after-after party, with Daniel Johns standing silently in the corner, looking for everything like David Bowie in &lt;i&gt;The Man Who Fell To Earth&lt;/i&gt;. He was a barrel of laughs. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s that the language and the tactics and the tools of expressing political affect have changed.&#8221; </p>
<p>Indeed, there&#8217;s been too much complaining from people schooled in reading the ideologies of &#8217;80s pop culture, and not enough figuring out what the fuck is actually going on right now. Much more so with hip-hop than rock, I&#8217;d say. But at the same time, I&#8217;m still fascinated by a more expansive concept of <a href="http://www.antipopper.com/blog/archives/2003_08_21_2216hrs.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;virtualised&#8221; &#8217;80s Australian pop culture politics</a> that somehow established chains of meaning that weren&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;ideological&#8221;, even if they involved Midnight Oil at certain points. There&#8217;s also the signifying chains of &#8217;80s British pop, which integrated occasional leftist flag-waving into a more general culture of utopianism. I haven&#8217;t read much British cultural studies, but I get the impression that its emphasis on the microscopic resistances of subculturality would tend to miss that weird relationship between programmatic politics, a public concept of the defining political horizon, and the politics of style. Or maybe I&#8217;m retrospectively reading too much into the &#8217;80s. I&#8217;m not trying to argue for a revival of &#8220;&#8217;80s ideological&#8221; pop, by any means, but to reread it in less literal terms.</p>
<p>Meanwhile: ah, the ARIAs. Last century I found myself in Silverchair&#8217;s hotel room at an ARIAs after-after party, with Daniel Johns standing silently in the corner, looking for everything like David Bowie in <i>The Man Who Fell To Earth</i>. He was a barrel of laughs. <img src='http://homecookedtheory.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After just viewing the ceremony, I think the Oils, Bernard Fanning et al read your blog!</description>
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