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		<title>By: dogpossum</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2007/10/11/self-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-60045</link>
		<dc:creator>dogpossum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to assume that when someone suggests getting together for a cup of tea or a beer or whatever in RL that they are actually just interested in being mates or hanging out or developing professional contacts or think I&#039;m  hawt (dang, I have to keep believing this one)...? You know, old school - like we used to network before we had the internets?

And if you&#039;ve written on your blog that you&#039;re not exactly happy, isn&#039;t it a lovely thought that people will decide &#039;oh, they might like a cup of tea or a beer&#039;?

You think it&#039;s weird that we don&#039;t mention the fact that we&#039;ve leanrt stuff about each other online when we meet in person (and I do - I always wonder how to handle it), you should try (partner) dancing with people after you&#039;ve announced on the internet that you hate a particular move or will only dance to a certain type of music. Talk about mutual discomfort, confusion and miscommunication!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to assume that when someone suggests getting together for a cup of tea or a beer or whatever in RL that they are actually just interested in being mates or hanging out or developing professional contacts or think I&#8217;m  hawt (dang, I have to keep believing this one)&#8230;? You know, old school &#8211; like we used to network before we had the internets?</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;ve written on your blog that you&#8217;re not exactly happy, isn&#8217;t it a lovely thought that people will decide &#8216;oh, they might like a cup of tea or a beer&#8217;?</p>
<p>You think it&#8217;s weird that we don&#8217;t mention the fact that we&#8217;ve leanrt stuff about each other online when we meet in person (and I do &#8211; I always wonder how to handle it), you should try (partner) dancing with people after you&#8217;ve announced on the internet that you hate a particular move or will only dance to a certain type of music. Talk about mutual discomfort, confusion and miscommunication!</p>
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		<title>By: M-H</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2007/10/11/self-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-59820</link>
		<dc:creator>M-H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on holiday and the brain isn&#039;t working too well, but we spent last night with two women in Rio Dell, CA whom I have known for 11 years online, but have only met f-t-f twice before. They are among my closest and most intimate friends. I got more emotional support over the death of my late partner from online friends than I did from f-t-f friends. And she got far more support in hospital from her online life than her f-t-f friends. I haven&#039;t thought all this through properly, but I&#039;m glad you&#039;re doing it and I&#039;d like to read more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on holiday and the brain isn&#8217;t working too well, but we spent last night with two women in Rio Dell, CA whom I have known for 11 years online, but have only met f-t-f twice before. They are among my closest and most intimate friends. I got more emotional support over the death of my late partner from online friends than I did from f-t-f friends. And she got far more support in hospital from her online life than her f-t-f friends. I haven&#8217;t thought all this through properly, but I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re doing it and I&#8217;d like to read more.</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2007/10/11/self-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-59729</link>
		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on authenticity:

http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/i_cite/2007/10/google-earth-wh.html

crazy how different people from different theoretical orientations arrive at the same question regarding authenticity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on authenticity:</p>
<p><a href="http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/i_cite/2007/10/google-earth-wh.html" rel="nofollow">http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/i_cite/2007/10/google-earth-wh.html</a></p>
<p>crazy how different people from different theoretical orientations arrive at the same question regarding authenticity.</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2007/10/11/self-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-59696</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mel, thanks for your comment on my blog, and the expansion of your ideas here. Sorry I don&#039;t have time to respond in a proper post, but just quickly - I think here you distill very effectively some questions about the need for new ways of talking about the &#039;strength of weak ties&#039; - the new forms of interpersonal intimacy, new relations between individual human &#039;actants&#039; in these networks, and so on. 

Just briefly wanted to add to the mix the other dimension of the problem of textual &#039;authority&#039; in relation to what I clumsily referred to as distributed online &#039;presence&#039;. Call it collective intelligence, or distributed *production* - that is, even though we experience our &#039;personal&#039; online activities kind of locally and, well, personally, how does all this stuff collectively produce something quite distinct from what we *think* we&#039;re doing, even when we *think* we&#039;re sharing knowledge, or making friends, or whatever? These questions become more important when we encounter enormous scale, I guess, and the politics of scale for our disciplinary expertise (our authority to speak about any of these matters from a concretist, grounded, contextualised, local viewpoint) is also affected. Mark Elliott in his recently completed PhD uses the term &quot;stigmergy&quot; to talk about this (http://mark-elliott.net). He posted the other day to the iDC list:

&quot;The crux is that encodable networked media provide for the coordination of distributed, individualised contributions which may aggregate into emergent, system level behaviour such as collaborative filtering (Digg, Reddit), content creation (Second Life, YouTube) knowledge aggregation/generation (wikis, Wikipedia) etc. An important distinction to be made here, touched on in the previous posts, is that while this phenomenon achieves democratic-like outcomes, it is qualitatively different from &#039;democracy&#039;, in that its participants needn&#039;t be associated with or form constituent groups to advocate for or with. Instead, they act solely as individuals, with those individualistic actions contributing to emergent outcomes which provide &#039;use-value&#039; for the participants and others.&quot; 

Anyway, I guess what I&#039;ve been wondering is the extent to which blogging, however it is practiced, contributes to or continues to resist this model?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mel, thanks for your comment on my blog, and the expansion of your ideas here. Sorry I don&#8217;t have time to respond in a proper post, but just quickly &#8211; I think here you distill very effectively some questions about the need for new ways of talking about the &#8217;strength of weak ties&#8217; &#8211; the new forms of interpersonal intimacy, new relations between individual human &#8216;actants&#8217; in these networks, and so on. </p>
<p>Just briefly wanted to add to the mix the other dimension of the problem of textual &#8216;authority&#8217; in relation to what I clumsily referred to as distributed online &#8216;presence&#8217;. Call it collective intelligence, or distributed *production* &#8211; that is, even though we experience our &#8216;personal&#8217; online activities kind of locally and, well, personally, how does all this stuff collectively produce something quite distinct from what we *think* we&#8217;re doing, even when we *think* we&#8217;re sharing knowledge, or making friends, or whatever? These questions become more important when we encounter enormous scale, I guess, and the politics of scale for our disciplinary expertise (our authority to speak about any of these matters from a concretist, grounded, contextualised, local viewpoint) is also affected. Mark Elliott in his recently completed PhD uses the term &#8220;stigmergy&#8221; to talk about this (<a href="http://mark-elliott.net)" rel="nofollow">http://mark-elliott.net)</a>. He posted the other day to the iDC list:</p>
<p>&#8220;The crux is that encodable networked media provide for the coordination of distributed, individualised contributions which may aggregate into emergent, system level behaviour such as collaborative filtering (Digg, Reddit), content creation (Second Life, YouTube) knowledge aggregation/generation (wikis, Wikipedia) etc. An important distinction to be made here, touched on in the previous posts, is that while this phenomenon achieves democratic-like outcomes, it is qualitatively different from &#8216;democracy&#8217;, in that its participants needn&#8217;t be associated with or form constituent groups to advocate for or with. Instead, they act solely as individuals, with those individualistic actions contributing to emergent outcomes which provide &#8216;use-value&#8217; for the participants and others.&#8221; </p>
<p>Anyway, I guess what I&#8217;ve been wondering is the extent to which blogging, however it is practiced, contributes to or continues to resist this model?</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2007/10/11/self-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-59690</link>
		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One of the reasons I describe my current research in terms of â€˜online intimacyâ€™ is that Iâ€™m trying to find a way to start talking about these weaker connections that so many of us are experiencing without the negative connotation that â€˜weakerâ€™ implies. I want to develop a way of describing a new range of friendship functions that take place in mobile cultures - which is to say both online cultures and cultures where people are often moving from place to place for work.&quot;

ooooh, this post explains for me what your research is about, or at least gives me a better idea. I so didn&#039;t know.

Authenticity, in the sense of a real/fake distinction through which to judge examples of something? When is anything real!?!?! lol! I think this is a really good example of the power of simulacra (in D&#039;s sense, not B&#039;s sense). It doesn&#039;t matter if what you write or what is archived is true or not and relevant or not, as its force has particiular effects. Phantasms of loneliness may make people realise their own loneliness...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of the reasons I describe my current research in terms of â€˜online intimacyâ€™ is that Iâ€™m trying to find a way to start talking about these weaker connections that so many of us are experiencing without the negative connotation that â€˜weakerâ€™ implies. I want to develop a way of describing a new range of friendship functions that take place in mobile cultures &#8211; which is to say both online cultures and cultures where people are often moving from place to place for work.&#8221;</p>
<p>ooooh, this post explains for me what your research is about, or at least gives me a better idea. I so didn&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Authenticity, in the sense of a real/fake distinction through which to judge examples of something? When is anything real!?!?! lol! I think this is a really good example of the power of simulacra (in D&#8217;s sense, not B&#8217;s sense). It doesn&#8217;t matter if what you write or what is archived is true or not and relevant or not, as its force has particiular effects. Phantasms of loneliness may make people realise their own loneliness&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2007/10/11/self-branding/comment-page-1/#comment-59662</link>
		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting question. I just wonder whether people would reach out like that if you&#039;d voiced your annoyances at the pub, or just taken them as the usual moaning that accompanies living in Brisbane. 

It&#039;s interesting that those offers were made without acknowledgment of what you had written - there&#039;s a weird dynamic there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting question. I just wonder whether people would reach out like that if you&#8217;d voiced your annoyances at the pub, or just taken them as the usual moaning that accompanies living in Brisbane. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that those offers were made without acknowledgment of what you had written &#8211; there&#8217;s a weird dynamic there.</p>
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