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		<title>By: Rachel O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/08/17/privacy-and-work/comment-page-1/#comment-89524</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have thought of this before but Seb Chan, &quot;Head of digital, social, and emerging technologies&quot; at the Powerhouse museum in Sydney, does great work and thinking in this area. On company blogging policies (for cultural institutions at least) see his discussion of Powerhouse and BBC policy here: 

http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog/index.php/2008/04/14/updating-your-social-media-and-staff-blog-policies/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have thought of this before but Seb Chan, &#8220;Head of digital, social, and emerging technologies&#8221; at the Powerhouse museum in Sydney, does great work and thinking in this area. On company blogging policies (for cultural institutions at least) see his discussion of Powerhouse and BBC policy here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog/index.php/2008/04/14/updating-your-social-media-and-staff-blog-policies/" rel="nofollow">http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog/index.php/2008/04/14/updating-your-social-media-and-staff-blog-policies/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/08/17/privacy-and-work/comment-page-1/#comment-89498</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That kinda shades into the issue of whether employees’ comments about their employer on social media can be the subject of action taken against them.&quot;

All employees are under an implied duty not to act against the business interests of their employer. This usually works to prohibit things like moonlighting for competitors. I suspect it generally wouldn&#039;t fetter the freedom of speech of standard employees outside of work time. However, the more senior an employee, the more it might be expected they take positive steps to promote - or at least protect - the corporate brand, rather than bad mouth it.

Of course, it&#039;s up to an employer to put whatever express restrictions in a contract they see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That kinda shades into the issue of whether employees’ comments about their employer on social media can be the subject of action taken against them.&#8221;</p>
<p>All employees are under an implied duty not to act against the business interests of their employer. This usually works to prohibit things like moonlighting for competitors. I suspect it generally wouldn&#8217;t fetter the freedom of speech of standard employees outside of work time. However, the more senior an employee, the more it might be expected they take positive steps to promote &#8211; or at least protect &#8211; the corporate brand, rather than bad mouth it.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s up to an employer to put whatever express restrictions in a contract they see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/08/17/privacy-and-work/comment-page-1/#comment-89497</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trackback:

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/08/20/facebook-social-media-subjectivity-and-workplace-privacy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trackback:</p>
<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/08/20/facebook-social-media-subjectivity-and-workplace-privacy/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/08/20/facebook-social-media-subjectivity-and-workplace-privacy/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rachel O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/08/17/privacy-and-work/comment-page-1/#comment-89493</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. anything the agent can do to shorten an audition list they&#039;ll do. This strategy isn&#039;t very...logical. But indeed, casting as a kind of discrimination is sort of part of the job. the pro actor would deal with better casting agents, put up a website detailing professional training and skills and multiple preferred images (showing flexibility to  play dif roles), lock off everything else, and hope for discrimination that led to positive outcomes. Having said that, my acting friends are the best users of social websites by far. As in, good to watch/experience, uber creative/dismissive of the protocols, and make use of it for non-irksome personal-professional bleed. 
 
3. Has anyone actually heard of this being made this compulsory? Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. anything the agent can do to shorten an audition list they&#8217;ll do. This strategy isn&#8217;t very&#8230;logical. But indeed, casting as a kind of discrimination is sort of part of the job. the pro actor would deal with better casting agents, put up a website detailing professional training and skills and multiple preferred images (showing flexibility to  play dif roles), lock off everything else, and hope for discrimination that led to positive outcomes. Having said that, my acting friends are the best users of social websites by far. As in, good to watch/experience, uber creative/dismissive of the protocols, and make use of it for non-irksome personal-professional bleed. </p>
<p>3. Has anyone actually heard of this being made this compulsory? Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer &#187; Social networking technology and employers</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/08/17/privacy-and-work/comment-page-1/#comment-89492</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer &#187; Social networking technology and employers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/08/17/privacy-and-work/comment-page-1/#comment-89491</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work in the relevant government body regarding anti-discrimination law, so with some tiny authority I say that (1) would be not considered illegal discrimination (at least, not in NSW). Anti-Discrimination laws are very specific in their scope, there&#039;s no &#039;general&#039; discrimination clause. When a claim is made the first step is to check the claim against these specific cases.

Thus, you&#039;re legally free to discriminate on lots of issues. For example, this is how a family run shop can employ only family members etc, or why a Catholic school can refuse to hire a gay teacher.

(3) I&#039;m not sure about. I was once asked to have a &quot;profile&quot; page on a corporate website (photo, bio etc), I refused (I wanted no public association with the company) and checked with Privacy NSW who confirmed that I could not be compelled to participate (on privacy grounds). I&#039;m guessing this may apply equally to Facebook if personal information is made public through this practice.

On the issue of generations (which is always an annoying fauxcategory) I think there might be something special about the &#039;generation&#039; who grew up as the internet itself grew up. I&#039;m not sure what. Maybe I just hate being lumped in with either emo kids on myspace or my mum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in the relevant government body regarding anti-discrimination law, so with some tiny authority I say that (1) would be not considered illegal discrimination (at least, not in NSW). Anti-Discrimination laws are very specific in their scope, there&#8217;s no &#8216;general&#8217; discrimination clause. When a claim is made the first step is to check the claim against these specific cases.</p>
<p>Thus, you&#8217;re legally free to discriminate on lots of issues. For example, this is how a family run shop can employ only family members etc, or why a Catholic school can refuse to hire a gay teacher.</p>
<p>(3) I&#8217;m not sure about. I was once asked to have a &#8220;profile&#8221; page on a corporate website (photo, bio etc), I refused (I wanted no public association with the company) and checked with Privacy NSW who confirmed that I could not be compelled to participate (on privacy grounds). I&#8217;m guessing this may apply equally to Facebook if personal information is made public through this practice.</p>
<p>On the issue of generations (which is always an annoying fauxcategory) I think there might be something special about the &#8216;generation&#8217; who grew up as the internet itself grew up. I&#8217;m not sure what. Maybe I just hate being lumped in with either emo kids on myspace or my mum.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel, yes, it&#039;s true that only certain kinds of discrimination are legislated against. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humanrights.gov.au/info_for_employers/law/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This page provides a really good summary&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d say the person in scenario (1) would be in trouble, unless they can argue that somehow it was a political belief? Really if they are an actor it should NOT MATTER at all if their actual personality is that of a partygoer, because the whole point is that they &lt;i&gt;act&lt;/i&gt;, surely. My sister did a lot of amateur theatre, and she&#039;s a shy person in reality, but did some extraordinarily out there performances.

Re (2) - yes, discriminating against someone on the basis they are in a union is illegal in this country. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) is incorporated into Australian law by the &lt;i&gt;Australian Human Rights Commission Act 1986&lt;/i&gt;. Article 22(1) of the ICCPR says that:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Everyone shall have the right to freedom of association with others, including the right to form and join trade unions for the protection of his interests. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As for (3) - very interesting question. I don&#039;t think the law has gotten around to covering this one yet. I suspect employers are going to start having policies which attempt to force employees to toe the line with applications like Facebook. Personally, on just an ideological basis, I don&#039;t think people should be forced to communicate on Facebook with clients if they don&#039;t want to do so. Or the organisation should have a Facebook page or something. 

It devalues the whole application if people have updates spruiking the benefits of their company or products, eg, &quot;Come and have a look at our products!&quot; I&#039;d stop being friends with a person who had status updates like that. 

I have a friend who regularly updates with things like &quot;had really successful business meeting - came to great resolution of issues&quot; and while I love him dearly, I have considered hiding his updates because that&#039;s not what I want to hear about on Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel, yes, it&#8217;s true that only certain kinds of discrimination are legislated against. <a href="http://www.humanrights.gov.au/info_for_employers/law/index.html" rel="nofollow">This page provides a really good summary</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the person in scenario (1) would be in trouble, unless they can argue that somehow it was a political belief? Really if they are an actor it should NOT MATTER at all if their actual personality is that of a partygoer, because the whole point is that they <i>act</i>, surely. My sister did a lot of amateur theatre, and she&#8217;s a shy person in reality, but did some extraordinarily out there performances.</p>
<p>Re (2) &#8211; yes, discriminating against someone on the basis they are in a union is illegal in this country. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) is incorporated into Australian law by the <i>Australian Human Rights Commission Act 1986</i>. Article 22(1) of the ICCPR says that:</p>
<blockquote><p>Everyone shall have the right to freedom of association with others, including the right to form and join trade unions for the protection of his interests. </p></blockquote>
<p>As for (3) &#8211; very interesting question. I don&#8217;t think the law has gotten around to covering this one yet. I suspect employers are going to start having policies which attempt to force employees to toe the line with applications like Facebook. Personally, on just an ideological basis, I don&#8217;t think people should be forced to communicate on Facebook with clients if they don&#8217;t want to do so. Or the organisation should have a Facebook page or something. </p>
<p>It devalues the whole application if people have updates spruiking the benefits of their company or products, eg, &#8220;Come and have a look at our products!&#8221; I&#8217;d stop being friends with a person who had status updates like that. </p>
<p>I have a friend who regularly updates with things like &#8220;had really successful business meeting &#8211; came to great resolution of issues&#8221; and while I love him dearly, I have considered hiding his updates because that&#8217;s not what I want to hear about on Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel, (2) would absolutely be illegal, as trade union membership or activity is one ground on which one cannot discriminate (though, in practice, I suspect it&#039;s a fave among many employers).

(3) is interesting educationally as well. We have students doing group projects for assessment, and they are required to use a discussion board thingy as part of it. The problem is that the university software is so clunky and buggy - which is why we no longer use the terrible wiki. Some students asked yesterday if they could use a FB group instead, and the answer has to be no, because it would be an invasion of their privacy if we had to access their FB activity to mark them.

That kinda shades into the issue of whether employees&#039; comments &lt;b&gt;about&lt;/b&gt; their employer on social media can be the subject of action taken against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel, (2) would absolutely be illegal, as trade union membership or activity is one ground on which one cannot discriminate (though, in practice, I suspect it&#8217;s a fave among many employers).</p>
<p>(3) is interesting educationally as well. We have students doing group projects for assessment, and they are required to use a discussion board thingy as part of it. The problem is that the university software is so clunky and buggy &#8211; which is why we no longer use the terrible wiki. Some students asked yesterday if they could use a FB group instead, and the answer has to be no, because it would be an invasion of their privacy if we had to access their FB activity to mark them.</p>
<p>That kinda shades into the issue of whether employees&#8217; comments <b>about</b> their employer on social media can be the subject of action taken against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by AmalieF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by AmalieF</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: melgregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>melgregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks both of you - very helpful. I am amazed by the stories in your previous post, Legal Eagle!

So, let me talk about some specific examples that I heard in class, bearing in mind that my brain was tired after 5 hours of teaching... 

1. If an actor was trying out for a role which involved playing a conservative character, and the casting agents saw that the person was more of a partying type in their public FB profile, would it be discrimination if he/she didn&#039;t get the role for that reason? It seems from what Legal Eagle writes that this *would* be discrimination, but is it the case that only politicised identity categories (gender, race, ability, sex pref) are actually named in law as the basis for discrimination?

2. If a potential employer asked for a FB profile to see whether or not the person was in a union, had affiliations with activist groups, or had connections with certain people, would that be discrimination?

3. And finally (this is the one that I think relates to a lot of people right now): If an employer made it compulsory to use FB at work to communicate with clients and colleagues would it be discrimination if the employee refused?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks both of you &#8211; very helpful. I am amazed by the stories in your previous post, Legal Eagle!</p>
<p>So, let me talk about some specific examples that I heard in class, bearing in mind that my brain was tired after 5 hours of teaching&#8230; </p>
<p>1. If an actor was trying out for a role which involved playing a conservative character, and the casting agents saw that the person was more of a partying type in their public FB profile, would it be discrimination if he/she didn&#8217;t get the role for that reason? It seems from what Legal Eagle writes that this *would* be discrimination, but is it the case that only politicised identity categories (gender, race, ability, sex pref) are actually named in law as the basis for discrimination?</p>
<p>2. If a potential employer asked for a FB profile to see whether or not the person was in a union, had affiliations with activist groups, or had connections with certain people, would that be discrimination?</p>
<p>3. And finally (this is the one that I think relates to a lot of people right now): If an employer made it compulsory to use FB at work to communicate with clients and colleagues would it be discrimination if the employee refused?</p>
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