<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: #IPF09 debrief</title>
	<atom:link href="http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 08:38:43 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: ana australiana</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89953</link>
		<dc:creator>ana australiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89953</guid>
		<description>Ooh, comment grammar fail! I meant &quot;Looking at those photos I can see there was not nearly enough fashion hair as it seems there ought to have been.&quot; As you were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, comment grammar fail! I meant &#8220;Looking at those photos I can see there was not nearly enough fashion hair as it seems there ought to have been.&#8221; As you were.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ana australiana</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89952</link>
		<dc:creator>ana australiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89952</guid>
		<description>Thanks so much for this reflection Mel. Looking at those photos I can see there are is not nearly enough fashion hair as it seems there ought to have been. Disappointing! PS. You don&#039;t mean to say that there are _other_ feminist theorists, past and present, apart from Silvia Federici? PPS. Max Weber is my No. 1 favourite founding father of sociology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for this reflection Mel. Looking at those photos I can see there are is not nearly enough fashion hair as it seems there ought to have been. Disappointing! PS. You don&#8217;t mean to say that there are _other_ feminist theorists, past and present, apart from Silvia Federici? PPS. Max Weber is my No. 1 favourite founding father of sociology.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89951</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89951</guid>
		<description>Oh, this is so true. Thanks Jane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this is so true. Thanks Jane.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jane G.</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89950</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89950</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m ongoingly grateful only to have experienced this event through exposure to peripheral talk (on and offline), though I would like to have heard some of the papers. Anyway I thought this was terrific.

My one comment concerns the way that you place your ironic feminist observations under the heading of the scholarly &amp; disciplinary concerns as opposed to political ones. 
I, too, am attracted to Weber&#039;s formulation and think it&#039;s a relevant, interesting ideal to bring to the discussion of internet studies (and other interdisciplinary fields, like scholarly feminism). But it&#039;s not like any of the irritating gestures you report would be any less irritating, inadequate, misleading, etc in a political context or viewed as political. 

Surely the complaint is both scholarly *and* political. Maybe they are not so much indistinguishable as interdependent - feminism fail is both bad scholarship and bad politics, for non identical reasons. And it&#039;s hard to imagine making progress on either front without respect for both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m ongoingly grateful only to have experienced this event through exposure to peripheral talk (on and offline), though I would like to have heard some of the papers. Anyway I thought this was terrific.</p>
<p>My one comment concerns the way that you place your ironic feminist observations under the heading of the scholarly &amp; disciplinary concerns as opposed to political ones.<br />
I, too, am attracted to Weber&#8217;s formulation and think it&#8217;s a relevant, interesting ideal to bring to the discussion of internet studies (and other interdisciplinary fields, like scholarly feminism). But it&#8217;s not like any of the irritating gestures you report would be any less irritating, inadequate, misleading, etc in a political context or viewed as political. </p>
<p>Surely the complaint is both scholarly *and* political. Maybe they are not so much indistinguishable as interdependent &#8211; feminism fail is both bad scholarship and bad politics, for non identical reasons. And it&#8217;s hard to imagine making progress on either front without respect for both.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89947</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89947</guid>
		<description>It appeared in my PhD as well, and I agree with it even though its unfashionable. But it really grates against a view of &quot;cultural politics&quot; that sees its primary sites as being the classroom and the conference centre.

That is a fantastic picture, BTW. That and Ken Wark&#039;s hand-sketched diagram have been my two principal take aways from the conference thus far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appeared in my PhD as well, and I agree with it even though its unfashionable. But it really grates against a view of &#8220;cultural politics&#8221; that sees its primary sites as being the classroom and the conference centre.</p>
<p>That is a fantastic picture, BTW. That and Ken Wark&#8217;s hand-sketched diagram have been my two principal take aways from the conference thus far.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89946</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89946</guid>
		<description>Thanks Terry, I will have to return to Ian&#039;s work yet again. I should admit I started with Weber because I do believe in the distinction he&#039;s making, but sometimes feel very unfashionable for doing so. I even quoted from the same essay in the epigraph for my book about cultural studies :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Terry, I will have to return to Ian&#8217;s work yet again. I should admit I started with Weber because I do believe in the distinction he&#8217;s making, but sometimes feel very unfashionable for doing so. I even quoted from the same essay in the epigraph for my book about cultural studies <img src='http://homecookedtheory.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89945</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89945</guid>
		<description>Mel, you present Max Weber&#039;s argument at the beginning as somewhat naive and transcended by contemporary humanities scholarship, but it comes across to me as considerably less naive and more ethically defensible than the sight at the bottom of your post of IDC delegates rearranging the conference chairs into a circle in order to efface power relations at the conference. 

I&#039;ve long found Ian Hunter&#039;s critique of this sort of &quot;ethical athleticism&quot; very persuasive, taking his point that it says more about establishing the moral persona of the critic than actual political engagement, which is invariably more mundane and prosaic. I&#039;m also aware that this line of argument has little purchase in the U.S., where Fredric Jameson dismissed such arguments as &quot;laughable&quot; back in the mid 90s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel, you present Max Weber&#8217;s argument at the beginning as somewhat naive and transcended by contemporary humanities scholarship, but it comes across to me as considerably less naive and more ethically defensible than the sight at the bottom of your post of IDC delegates rearranging the conference chairs into a circle in order to efface power relations at the conference. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long found Ian Hunter&#8217;s critique of this sort of &#8220;ethical athleticism&#8221; very persuasive, taking his point that it says more about establishing the moral persona of the critic than actual political engagement, which is invariably more mundane and prosaic. I&#8217;m also aware that this line of argument has little purchase in the U.S., where Fredric Jameson dismissed such arguments as &#8220;laughable&#8221; back in the mid 90s.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tweets that mention #IPF09 debrief : home cooked theory -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://homecookedtheory.com/archives/2009/12/23/ipf09-debrief/comment-page-1/#comment-89944</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention #IPF09 debrief : home cooked theory -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://homecookedtheory.com/?p=1251#comment-89944</guid>
		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jason Wilson, Col. Col said: RT @jason_a_w: RT @melgregg ok comrades, since yr all on holidays here is my debrief from IPF09 http://bit.ly/8T65QB [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Jason Wilson, Col. Col said: RT @jason_a_w: RT @melgregg ok comrades, since yr all on holidays here is my debrief from IPF09 <a href="http://bit.ly/8T65QB" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8T65QB</a> [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

